I know you don’t believe he’s “real”, but do you understand him as a “fictional character”?
I don’t believe Harry Potter is “real”, but I could still tell you all about the “Harry Potter character” based on the 7 books written about him. Could you do the same with the “God character” based on the 66 books written about him (the 66 books are the Bible)
I’m not interested in an argument, just curious as to whether or not you understand the main “character” in the “fictional story(s)” called the Bible
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Oh come on no two christians can agree about such a character and there is a huge amount of evidence that it is entirely false!
Academia states that in the absence of proof of the existence of something it must be deemed not to exist until verifiable proof is found - thus god is held not to exist pending some sort of verifiable evidence.
The bible is what is called "Faction" A fictional story set in a factual time and place. Thus the time, place and real historical characters are all correct but the fictional characters and stories are not!
There is not one single mention of Jesus in the entire Roman record - that is right - not one! At the same time as he was supposed to have been around there were a number of Jews claiming to be the messiah - all of whom are well recorded!
There is not a single contemporary record from any source and even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
He was supposed to have been a huge problem to the Romans and produced wonderful miracles but still not one contemporary record?
Even the bible mentions of him like all other references were not written until many years after his supposed death!
Pilate is recorded in the Roman record as a somewhat lack luster man but no mention of a Jesus, a trial or crucifixion that would surely have been used to make him look brighter!
At best he was an amalgam of those others but almost certainly never existed!
The Roman Emperor Constantine produced the bible and he was a pagan not god! He took the Jewish religion, organized it into Christianity and then into the Holly Roman Catholic Church!! Not in Israel or any of the countries of supposed origin but entirely ITALIAN!
Not one word of it is contemporary with the period and was not written until several hundred years after the period the story is set in!! How did the apostles write their books more than a hundred years after they would have been dead?
What a wonder full disinformation and deception campaign he waged against his Jewish enemies by turning them into his invented Christianity - so good in fact that Christians are still following the deception to this day!
The first person to provide a shred of verifiable evidence for God will become world famous and mega rich! Ain't happened yet and it never will!
So how does this primitive belief survive? The answer is simple and very down to Earth
Acceptance of a supernatural claim tends to promote cooperative social relationships. This communication demonstrates a willingness to accept, without skepticism, the influence of the speaker in a way similar to a child's acceptance of the influence of a parent. By encouraging this kind of behavior where the most intense social relationships occur it facilitates the lack of skepticism and deters more open minded thinking.
They are christian, Muslim or the other religions depending where they were born simply because they were indoctrinated by their parents as very young children. They will go on to indoctrinate their own children and those will go on to indoctrinate their grandchildren!
Atheists have the intellect to see through the conditioning and escape into the real world!
Agnostics have the intellect to see through the conditioning but lack the courage to throw of the conditioning entirely.
Sadly Christians, muslims and others are still held firmly prisoner by the self perpetuating brainwashing!
Why pick one mythological being over another? What's wrong with Allah, Budda, Zeus, Odin, or any other god? See you have two assumptions wrapped up here - there is a god, and it is the god of the bible - which I reject. There is no evidence to support the first, and less to support that second, since the second is dependent on the first.
If you are going to understand 'God' in than sense you need to read more than just the Bible. At minimum you need to read all the religious books of all the world's major religions (Islam, Hinduism, Judaism).
Personally I haven't read the whole Christian Bible, but I did go to Catholic high school and had 4 years of religious and Bible classes. I haven't read any other religious texts.
Yes, I do identify the concept of God as a fictional deity in the Bible.
I understand him. The God of the Bible is a psychopath who gives one of his most devout followers a disease prove to an adversary(called Satan) how fanatical his followers are. He made Abraham kill his son, and he killed his own son. He killed babies, sent bears to devour children who made fun of a bald man, and destroyed an entire city for the misbehavior of a few of it's citizens. Why anybody would give such an entity any respect is beyond me. He seems more like a demon than a god.
You could have simply asked do we understand hypothetically. Maybe some do, but I do not understand the apple thing with Eve, I mean, that's like putting a cake in front of a baby and then when it takes some you chase it out of the house, no? There are lots of other silly things that one could go on all day about but you get the picture.
Yes, as well as the slightly different versions in the other fictional books in the religion series.
What do you mean by "understand"? Most of us are familiar with the stories, or at least some of them.
Remember the part of the bible where God sent lions to kill people for not being afraid of him?
Sure. All powerful being that poofed the universe into existence. The details however vary considerably from one individual to the next.
But I'm willing to bet that I know more about God as described in the Bible than you do.
Yes.
After I read the Bible, I understood that God was loving, forgiving, and merciful. But other times he was very irrational, and extremely violent. My idea of a hero doesn't exactly commit infanticide. Also, he was also unforgiving and merciless at other times.