People keep claiming that our culture is under threat by immigrants or minorities but nobody ever mentions any specifics, can you?
Update:I'm only asking about culture changes if they can be seen as credible threats.
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The real problem British culture faces is that British people no longer care much for it. People do not go to church, they prefer shopping. They buy "foreign" music and food. And this has been happening for years. Culture evolves, people move on. The days when everyone went to the chippy on a friday, church on a Sunday and then men to the pub while women cooked the roast are long gone.
And areas such as Women's Lib and gay rights are still fairly new to our culture, we still have a long way to go with the, but I believe we will get there, with the majority of ALL Brits eventually at least accepting them even if they do not support them.
I've starred this question because you make a very important point - British culture is so diverse, and has been affected so much over time by different influences, that it is difficult to pin down exactly what it is. The BNP have a very narrow definition based on the myth that there was once an 'indigenous' British 'race', descended from Celts, Anglo-Saxons and Norse. Anyone who has actually studied British history will realise that reality is very much more complicated than that, not least because for around 200 years the British ruled the greatest Empire in the world, and the cultural influences of that Empire shaped the country we know today.
When large numbers of immigrants move into an area and fail to integrate, they begin to change the community. There are many high streets in Britain where the chippy and the pub have gone, replaced by kebab shops, burqa shops and mosques. There are areas where the shop fronts and even street signs are in foreign languages, and where you can walk down the street without hearing English spoken. In many immigrant areas, British culture has been completely wiped out.
More worryingly, the Chief Inspector of the Constabulary, Tom Windsor, recently admitted that there are immigrant areas of Britain that govern themselves and make their own rules rather than following the law of the land. He admitted that anything from genital mutilation to honour killings could be taking place in these communities without police knowledge. Immigration threatens not only British culture, but also British values.
Our culture is based largely uopn our Christian heritage. We have been slowly but steadily abandoning that since the brave revolution of the lliberal 1960s which coincidentally or not is about the time when we began to implement multiculturalism and 3rd world mass immigration. I know this country has seen immigration before but the current wave has been on an unprecedented level and by people with which we have little or nothing in common.
You want examples? OK: we treat women as equals, islam doesn't. We don't persecute gays, islam does. We allow young people to choose their own spouse, islam prefers to either arrange or even force. We like to have a pint in the pub, islam says you can't, we enjoy music, islam prohibits it.
As Christianity has declined, islam has marched forward, mosques have sprouted almost everywhere and in Dudley it has been proposed to built an exclusive asian village together with the biggest and tallest mosque. This means exclusion from that area for white people assuming there are any of those left in the area now. I was born and brought up in Stourbridge just a few miles from there and remember what Dudley was like as a young lad.
All around that area these huge changes in great numbers have occurred; in the end my wife and I could bear it no longer so we moved to the countryside where British Christian-based culture can still operate.
However it seems to be the ambition of those misguided architects of MC to spread this divisive virus to every corner of the British Isles.
Hopefully if will be after my time. Other peoples coming to these shores have mixed in, been relatively small in number and have not been so damanding all the time.
We translate official documents into all their languages which we never did for other groups; we pay a fortune for court interpreters for those who have been here for generations but still don't speak any English (until they are outside the court of course). I have seen it.
Rasicsm, you say? Oh yes; look no further than the rasict attitude muslims have toward the Jews.
Credible threats? You bet. The Brits will only take so much. We have already seen violence and bloodshed and as this gets worse and more British towns and cities fall to black and asian majority there will be more, much more. And they are now beginning to believe they can dictate current culture; the sharia boys who post notices saying "This is a sharia area- no dancing, no music, no singing, no drinking.." etc. You might laugh at it now but just you wait. The PC brigade has not stampted on this but allowed it to happen.
It is not just our culture under threat but our security too.
Edit: Celia, yours is a very worn-out and flippant point if I might politely say so.
I also enjoy foreign cuisine as do many other British people, but that does not mean everone who cooks it plus his wife and nineteen kids has automatic right of residence in this country. I may end up in a bungalow too but just because that is a word of Indian origin are you seriously saying that provides a template for immigration policy?
I take it you haven't noticed all the money being spent on leaflets in multiple languages or translators then to help people to vote in elections and claim benefits?
It doesn't bother you that some immigrants bring non English speaking people relatives here who will never integrate and speak our language?
How about the road signs that have been popping up in cities that are in foreign languages?
It shouldn't matter if foreign communities build up and the majority there don't use English as their native language
This is England. The language is and should remain English
What about the regions of the countries that even the emergency services now won't go to because they have been taken over by effectively foreigners who attack them when they do turn up
And you do know that Sharia Law is being implemented in Muslim areas?
What about Islamic banks being set up?
Or how about free schools of faith that are allowed to be run in this country and discriminate against women?
What was the point of women's equality if we allow that to go on?
I don't recall Mosques or Sikh temples being part of the British culture either. Even though Christianity is in decline I'd rather see these buildings knocked down or converted into houses. This country has had a strong Christian background for centuries and it's better to see that fade away than be replaced by something that was never part of or should ever be part of the British culture because the country has been moving towards being more secular than religious
Since when we did British culture involve people burning poppies or the UK flag and chanting death threats to UK soldiers?
British culture has been represented by the stiff upper lip not marching down the street chanting for police to burn in hell or to implement Islamic law
CENTRAL to any culture are the Language, Customs and History.
Too many immigrants have been allowed here since WWII - and many (including off-spring) have an inadequate grasp of English and/or interest in OUR history.
The multiculturalists are keen on the notion that newcomers should emphasise/celebrate their own roots, customs and traditions and it is for the indigenous population to accept/adapt to such differences.
Muslims, of course, most noticeably DEMAND respect and tolerance, whilst constantly insisting on 'rights' not available in predominantly muslim countries (where WE can be prosecuted, jailed and deported if accused of any 'offence' against Islam).
We know that in about 50 years time, as already applies in London, the majority of UK residents will be non-white - showing to what degree immigrants have SWAMPED these over-crowded islands.
We are told this huge demographic shift is 'enriching' but I fail to see any aspect of British life either needed or has actually experienced such enrichment.
It's just paranoia since british citizens who are not white are starting to increase in numbers.
Christianity for a start,the rights of women to wear what they want when they want and to be equal to men.How many plays have been stopped or authors threatened because of what they say or do.Free speech in general.All our tv and broadcasting output is filtered so as not to annoy certain sections of the community.
It is in danger of being "Bred Out" as Social Marxist Politician's continue to pursue a reckless agenda of "Multiculturalism" and unsustainable Mass Immigration - Hundreds of Thousands Per Year - which means it's virtually impossible to achieve full and proper Integration. Large Areas of British Cities have been taken over by those who have come directly from Third World Cultural Backwaters and they've brought their ways with them and implemented it in their own Communities which are growing bigger and gaining more Political influence at Local and National level.
@Corny; Red Herring, a "Culture" is about far more than Superficial things like going to the Pub, or the Chippy, or eating Curries and Kebabs, or something like the Notting Hill Carnival.
"CULTURE" is; Language, Religion, History, Legal System, Beliefs, Values, Etc
"areas such as Women's Lib and gay rights are still fairly new to our culture, we still have a long way to go with them"
And what does Multiculturalism offer to the situation? Middle Eastern and Indo-Pakistani Islamic Cultures are Misogynistic and Homophobic.
Slightly Off Topic and Maybe i'm not the most empathetic as I'm Straight and Male, but where exactly are we "so far behind" in terms of Rights for Women or Gay people, anyway?
Women can have nearly any job and hold any position that a Man can have, the only exceptions I can think of are Pro Sport and from fighting in Combat in the Military, but then I'm not allowed to work in a Woman's Shelter, even as a Receptionist, only Women are, so it goes both ways.
They're paid the same for the same work and same level of productivity. Anti-Discrimination Laws ensure females and gay people aren't discriminated against and even favoured sometimes.
Domestic Violence against females is taken very seriously and campaigned about
Ete etc etc
@Nemesis; Spot On.
immigrants cultures was never under under brtish rule for 200 years .. Britihsers are not so frail or fragile